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The AI Comedy Playbook with Mike Todasco: Tips, Tools, and Techniques for Comedians
AI is a hot topic right now, so we’re bringing on former Senior Director of Innovation at PayPal Mike Todasco to give us a crash course on using AI to level up our comedy.
His team actually reached out to us about coming on the show so we’re getting first dibs on cutting edge AI insights.
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- AI tools for comedians
- How to get booked using AI
- Joke writing with AI
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Transcript
What's goody?
Joel Byers:Hot breath averse.
Joel Byers:Welcome back to Hot Breath Live, your weekly comedy tune up with comedians Joel Byers and Yoshi.
Joel Byers:So if you don't know, we just premiered Yoshi's comedy special on our YouTube channel titled American African.
Joel Byers:You've got to go check out right now.
Joel Byers:And also congrats to Bob Kirk for winning our hundred joke contest for October.
Joel Byers:If you want to compete in November's contest, check out the link in the description of this episode.
Joel Byers:But today, I just want that hot breath to hit really quick.
Joel Byers:We are, we're going into the metaverse today.
Joel Byers:We're bringing an AI expert who is going to help us figure out how we can excel.
Joel Byers:Our mission, our mission here is to cultivate self made comics.
Joel Byers:And now our guest today, formerly the senior director of innovation at PayPal, now a thought leader in the AI space, he is joining us here to help us level up our comedy with AI.
Joel Byers:So without further ado, hot brother and sister and welcome to the hot breath verse, Mr.
Joel Byers:Mike Tadasco, everyone.
Mike Tadasco:Welcome.
Mike Tadasco:Welcome, Mike.
Mike Tadasco:Thank you, Joel, Yoshi and the audience out there.
Mike Tadasco:Yes, thank you.
Mike Tadasco:Thank you all for having me.
Yoshi:Absolutely.
Joel Byers:We are out here and we're excited.
Joel Byers:I mean, dive right into this.
Joel Byers:I mean, I almost don't even know where to begin.
Joel Byers:I almost kind of want to let you, Mike, as the expert.
Joel Byers:You've heard our mission.
Joel Byers:You know what we're about at Hot Breath.
Joel Byers:So maybe where to begin?
Joel Byers:We all hear about AI, we think, oh, I should be using it more.
Joel Byers:I hear it over and over again and how it makes life invincible.
Joel Byers:And then I log on to ChatGPT and I'm like, how do I spell AI?
Joel Byers:So let us ease into this here, Mike, what should we know first perhaps?
Mike Tadasco:Yeah, well, let me tell you in Yoshi and your audience, my story with AI and I think a lot of you will actually be able to relate to that.
Mike Tadasco:So my background is not a engineer technology guy.
Mike Tadasco:I was an accountant.
Mike Tadasco:So to put that into like comedian parlance, that's like Bob Newhart territory right there of like famous accountants in your world.
Mike Tadasco:But like, so I don't have a technical background, but I got into the world of technology.
Mike Tadasco:I was at PayPal, I was running the innovation group there.
Mike Tadasco:And for years I would have these engineers come in and they would do these really awesome demos and all that and show these amazing things that they could do with machine learning and deep learning and all these other fancy words.
Mike Tadasco:And I was always in awe.
Mike Tadasco:But I can never do that.
Mike Tadasco: Fast forward: Mike Tadasco:I was just kind of playing with GPT3, which was a tool created by a company called OpenAI that you probably all heard of.
Mike Tadasco:And I finally had access to it.
Mike Tadasco:I was like, well, what could be fun to do with this?
Mike Tadasco:I was like, I want to make a inauguration speech as if an AI were president of the United States.
Mike Tadasco:Very timely for this time of year.
Mike Tadasco:But this was, that was literally three years ago when I was first doing this.
Mike Tadasco:That's what I happened to be doing.
Mike Tadasco:And I fed it in there, I wrote some lines, I stole a bunch of lines from Obama's second speech and I fed it in there and I was like, AI, go see what you can do.
Mike Tadasco:And I tell you guys, it started to actually spit out words back to me that made sense.
Mike Tadasco:And that was the first time in my life as a non technologist.
Mike Tadasco:I knew this was something amazing, something special.
Mike Tadasco:And I literally ran upstairs.
Mike Tadasco:I'm screaming, I'm screaming in my house about this.
Mike Tadasco:Tell my wife, my kids are like, what's wrong?
Mike Tadasco:I'm like, the computer is making words.
Yoshi:And.
Mike Tadasco:That'S really a revolutionary thing if you really stop to think about like what that is now.
Mike Tadasco:It was making mistakes.
Mike Tadasco:It wasn't good.
Mike Tadasco:At one point it just got stuck, stuck and kept on saying and, and, and, and, and, and it just kept on going and not stopping the first time I got to really see that.
Mike Tadasco:And, and like fast forward today.
Mike Tadasco:These models from three years ago are, you know, a hundred times better.
Mike Tadasco:And then this is the world that we're all entering now.
Joel Byers:So how should comics specifically, how can we leverage AI?
Joel Byers:I mean, there's so many different variables to being a comedian now beyond just writing jokes and performing and reviewing your sets, and then also edit recording clips and editing clips and social media and all this.
Joel Byers:How do you see best fit for the layman to kind of get introduced into AI and really start.
Joel Byers:Because it, what I've used it for, it seems like AI is like a skill you almost need repetition to get better at.
Mike Tadasco:Yeah, for, I mean, let's start with.
Mike Tadasco:It's probably easier to talk about like editing and tools like that.
Mike Tadasco:So there's a company called Descript out there that does pretty amazing editing.
Mike Tadasco:It's using artificial intelligence.
Mike Tadasco:But say if we're recording a podcast and all of a sudden I say that, hey, you know, the presidential election is happening on January 5th.
Mike Tadasco:And you're like, well, Michael is actually November 5th.
Mike Tadasco:You can actually go into the script, edit it like a word doc and change when I said January to November and it's going to change it in my own voice as part of that.
Mike Tadasco:And that's pretty amazing because it's literally training off of all those other segments.
Mike Tadasco:So then you can take these and it actually makes clips, it does all this stuff.
Mike Tadasco:So to put content out there, to put high quality content, you know, like even if you got something great, you kind of flubbed a line or whatever, it might be like, it can correct for so much of that.
Mike Tadasco:So tools like descript Podcast AI I think is another one out there.
Mike Tadasco:There's a lot of different tools out there that could really help you edit market, you know, so you're spending less time chopping up your content and more time actually creating your content.
Mike Tadasco:So kind of that's the first side, I would say so like editing video, all that.
Mike Tadasco:Second side, for a comedian out there, the one thing I will tell you, and hopefully this is probably reassuring for some and maybe disappointing for others, it is not.
Mike Tadasco:If you put a prompt into ChatGPT or Claude, you're it's not going to give you a 30 minute set out of that that you're going to be able to just go up on stage and do like it is nowhere near being able to do that, but the kind of things it can do.
Mike Tadasco:And we could talk about more like some of the analysis and research I've done on this, it could start to critique stuff like.
Mike Tadasco:So if you do have 30 minutes and you're like, hey, I need to cut this down to 10 and you have it all written out or frankly you can even use this in voice with some of the tools.
Mike Tadasco:You could put that into Claude, you could put that into ChatGPT and say, hey, identify the jokes in here, rank on a 10 point scale which ones you think are the funniest and how would you edit this down to a tight 10 minutes?
Mike Tadasco:And you know what, it's probably gonna, it's not gonna be perfect, but it's actually gonna start to get there.
Mike Tadasco:And you might even say like, oh, how can I punch this up?
Mike Tadasco:Give me 10 different options to punch up this slide because this just isn't working for me.
Mike Tadasco:It's a brainstorming partner.
Mike Tadasco:Like in many ways that's one of these things that the AIs are really good at.
Mike Tadasco:It's brainstorming.
Mike Tadasco:It's like having a buddy at all hours of the night just like sitting right next to you, just ready to go and you just throw out some ideas and boom, they got like 10 things that they're going to be firing back at you.
Mike Tadasco:That's, you know, that's the things that, like, AI today is really good at.
Joel Byers:And it's also, I think what I've learned from just researching AI on my own is like, when you prompt AI, which is basically typing something to AI, you want to qualify it.
Joel Byers:So it's like if you're, if you just type in AI, edit this script for me.
Joel Byers:That would be like you walking down the street and just asking any random person to edit your script.
Joel Byers:You almost want to be like, act as a comedy writing expert who's worked with Conan and whoever, and you just build up their resume and then say, using your expertise, edit this.
Joel Byers:And I think that's a detail I think a lot of people overlook in AI right now.
Mike Tadasco:Absolutely.
Mike Tadasco:And so basically what you're describing, Joel, is giving your AI a Persona.
Mike Tadasco:Like, if an AI, the problem is the AI has infinite things that it can do that it can be.
Mike Tadasco:It could help build a recipe for you.
Mike Tadasco:It can help do drug discovery.
Mike Tadasco:If you think about that from like the human brain, like, these are all things humans would be able to do also.
Mike Tadasco:But you're right.
Mike Tadasco:Like, if you just walked up to some random stranger on the street and just said, hey, tell me a joke, it's gonna be hard to do that.
Mike Tadasco:It would similarly be hard for an AI to do that.
Mike Tadasco:But if you gave the AI some context, I'm into Bernie Mac, Sid Caesar and Phyllis Diller or something.
Mike Tadasco:I don't know, just, I mean, you could randomly pick throughout your influences, whatever it might be, it's going to start to do that and start to give you some sort of reference for, like, you said, like, say, late night type comedy or whatever, it will understand those references better.
Mike Tadasco:You can even have it critique your own.
Mike Tadasco:Just say, hey, this is my actual.
Mike Tadasco:I'm going to be playing a club in Bismarck this weekend.
Mike Tadasco:Like, I don't know, what are people into?
Mike Tadasco:Like, how do you think these jokes are going to land there?
Mike Tadasco:There's all of these other questions that you could start to ask about that.
Mike Tadasco:And especially with tools like ChatGPT, it actually does have a memory component.
Mike Tadasco:And so, like, the more you work with it, it will actually start to save some of these pieces in memory and it will actually start to learn about you.
Mike Tadasco:So, so, and again, I back up.
Mike Tadasco:Claude and ChatGPT are kind of the two major AI tools out there that people can use.
Mike Tadasco:And generally they're really the two best ones out there.
Mike Tadasco:I would say for anybody looking to be in the space Most are free to start.
Mike Tadasco:No more than like 20 bucks a month that you would have to pay.
Mike Tadasco:But really with either of them, you would kind of be amazed at the kind of content it's going to build out.
Mike Tadasco:But you just got to kind of give it some time.
Mike Tadasco:It's got to learn.
Mike Tadasco:You got to learn how to interact with it just as much as it has to learn.
Mike Tadasco:What is it that you like versus what you don't like.
Yoshi:Yeah, I've been using AI for some time now.
Yoshi:And one of the things like Joel mentioned is, and that you've also mentioned is to use it as a support system for what you need, almost like as an assistant.
Yoshi:And what I've done is my special, for example, that I literally put out.
Yoshi:I used it to help me find, hey, find the biggest pops based on what you heard.
Yoshi:Because I took the audio and find the biggest pops.
Yoshi:And then I've also used it find clips within this to be used for TikTok and or social media.
Yoshi:And so I've used it as a way to sort of summarize and help me find synopsis.
Yoshi:So like, I remember giving Joel the description for the special.
Yoshi:I used AI to just do the description of the special and said, okay, get it down.
Yoshi:Tighter, tighter, tighter, tighter.
Yoshi:But then also make it for this audience.
Yoshi:How would this description work best for YouTube?
Yoshi:How would it work best for TikTok?
Yoshi:And based on the synopsis of the entire set, so I also sort of pushed it into, had it memorized and know my entire set.
Yoshi:It was already word for words.
Yoshi:I just threw it in there and said, based on my set, how would you.
Yoshi:What would be the description of this material?
Yoshi:And then it gave me that back and so I like using it for that.
Yoshi:I've all used it for joke generation ideas as well.
Yoshi:In terms of I've got like just some dumb joke that I thought of when I was on the Poop Pooper and I was like, all right, help me figure out better ways to like say this.
Yoshi:But I had like a setup and I had a punchline and I was like, give me some more ideas sort of just based on this dumb idea that I have.
Yoshi:And it's helped me sort of just figure out how to organize the joke itself.
Yoshi:Never writes it for me because I don't need it to do that.
Yoshi:But it definitely gave me just a bunch of ideas.
Yoshi:Sort of.
Yoshi:Can you go into sort of how comedians can use AI for better for the like the business side of standup?
Yoshi:Right.
Yoshi:I know right now we're talking like the performance and like the, you know, content and sort of just how do you think comedians can use AI for the business side of this business that we call show business?
Mike Tadasco:Yes, I will get to that.
Mike Tadasco:But first, Yoshi, I want to just touch on your point, because I think it was so good.
Mike Tadasco:These things, again, they can do infinite possibilities.
Mike Tadasco:So the kind of things you're describing, like it, like AI is as capable as what your imagination has for it.
Mike Tadasco:So, like just whatever the more creative you are with solutions, with ways that you want it to help you, the better output you're going to be able to get from these models.
Mike Tadasco:And that's something we've seen time and time again, even with the image generation models.
Mike Tadasco:So the ones that will generate a picture or photograph or whatever.
Mike Tadasco:There have been studies on this, and it's really fascinating the more skilled you are as an artist.
Mike Tadasco:So they had me not an artist.
Mike Tadasco:Skilled artists both generate the same type of picture and then show that picture and say, hey, rate this on a scale of 1 to 10.
Mike Tadasco:The actual artists, those rate way higher than the person who is not an artist.
Mike Tadasco:Now, why is that?
Mike Tadasco:Because they know the nuance, they know the style, they know all this other stuff that goes into great artwork.
Mike Tadasco:So they would say details and things that I would never even think of as part of it.
Mike Tadasco:So, you know, so I think that's really important.
Mike Tadasco:And especially, you know, for whatever your craft is, just know the more you give into it, the more you're going to get out.
Mike Tadasco:But on the business side of things, the first thing I would go to.
Mike Tadasco:Now, I don't know the world of showbiz.
Mike Tadasco:You might have to guide me here a little.
Mike Tadasco:But I'm sure you all probably see lots of contracts, lots of agreements you got to sign with all these little clubs that are God knows where.
Mike Tadasco:And every time you're playing a show somewhere, it's something different or your manager has to do it.
Mike Tadasco:The first thing I would do is I would frankly just like, lean on these tools for reading legalese.
Mike Tadasco:Whether it's a contract with your manager, whether it's a contract with a performance venue, a producer, whatever it might be, literally just upload that thing as a PDF or whatever you have and just say, hey, ChatGPT, I'm a comedian.
Mike Tadasco:I'm going to be playing this show in a few weeks.
Mike Tadasco:Tell me, does anything not look standard in this?
Mike Tadasco:For starters, and like right there, that's an easy question for the models to answer.
Mike Tadasco:Five seconds, they'll say, well, yeah, actually, these clauses are A little bit weird.
Mike Tadasco:And then you can say, okay, well, maybe you're really concerned about Brown M and Ms.
Mike Tadasco:Or whatever the heck it might be that you don't want.
Mike Tadasco:Like, you can even upload your writer and say, is this consistent with my writer?
Mike Tadasco:Or is this consistent with maybe the email thread I had going with this venue before I sign it?
Mike Tadasco:Can you actually tell and see, like, okay, we were talking about this over email, but this is what they gave me as a contract.
Mike Tadasco:Does that make sense?
Mike Tadasco:Are these two consistent with each other?
Mike Tadasco:And like, that is one thing that these things are hugely, hugely beneficial for.
Mike Tadasco:And again, Claude chatgpt.
Mike Tadasco:They do it easily.
Mike Tadasco:Easily.
Mike Tadasco:But guide me.
Mike Tadasco:What else do, like, what else y'all do in show business land?
Mike Tadasco:I'm in Northern California.
Mike Tadasco:I don't know what everybody does in la.
Yoshi:I mean, I'd probably say from my end, I'm a producer.
Yoshi:And so I.
Yoshi:I started using Notion to sort of organize all, like, the comedians that I like to use.
Yoshi:And I've.
Yoshi:I literally have a database of probably like a hundred comedians that I like to put on shows, like, in the area.
Yoshi:And I literally rank them by, like, are they clean?
Yoshi:Can they do a bar show?
Yoshi:Can they do longer sets?
Yoshi:Some of the topics that they do?
Yoshi:And then what I would love is if AI can figure out, all right, based on this, give me a lineup that I can sort of put on a show, like, and easily generate that.
Yoshi:I mean, that would be cool, like, but I haven't sort of connected the dots yet.
Yoshi:Yes, I've got the piece of Notion, but I haven't connected the dot on.
Yoshi:Okay, for this next show, which comedians should I put on this show?
Yoshi:But it definitely helps me sort of rake through and then I mark off, oh, I've used this comedian this month.
Yoshi:Let me use somebody else or somebody else who hasn't been booked over time.
Mike Tadasco:Absolutely.
Mike Tadasco:Like, so Notion has an AI component that's fairly robust.
Mike Tadasco:I think you have to pay extra for it.
Mike Tadasco:It's already built in there, so it can do analysis like that just off of that tool.
Mike Tadasco:And if you're not using Notion, whatever other project management CRM tool, they're all getting AI baked into there.
Mike Tadasco:So, I mean, there's all of these different ways that you can potentially do that.
Mike Tadasco:Or theoretically you could just download what you have a notion as a CSV file, such as a common Excel type format, and you could then upload that into Claude or whatever it might be and say, hey, I want a show that is going to be, you know, the Friday shows are clean.
Mike Tadasco:The Saturday shows are not.
Mike Tadasco:I don't want to repeat anybody.
Mike Tadasco:I want to have whatever.
Mike Tadasco:Put in whatever your parameters are and say, okay.
Mike Tadasco:Now, given that, given those constraints, maximize this for the next three months of shows.
Mike Tadasco:You know, it's.
Mike Tadasco: It's October: Mike Tadasco:Give me shows through the holidays.
Mike Tadasco:Where and how.
Mike Tadasco:What kind of pairings do you think would be the best for that?
Mike Tadasco:And expect to do that now, it's not gonna be 100, but it could get you like, 70 of the way there.
Mike Tadasco:And that's.
Mike Tadasco:That's a pretty good start.
Mike Tadasco:And then even as you adjust it, say, like, okay, here's how I adjusted it.
Mike Tadasco:Now can you take those and maximize it, optimize it again?
Mike Tadasco:And I'll just keep doing that again and again.
Yoshi:Yeah, I like that.
Joel Byers:Another use case that just came to mind is because something comics that's like, so many comics lack professionalism, like, as produce.
Joel Byers:Because I've produced shows as well, and so many comics will just reach out, yo, I heard you have a show.
Joel Byers:Let me get on it.
Joel Byers:Like, that's not how you reach out to a booker.
Joel Byers:So even if it's like, oh, I want to contact Yoshi about getting on his show, you could use AI to one, write a captivating subject line for the email that maybe will be more likely for him to open, and then also a quick message to him that gets what you want to say across, but also it's professional and more likely he'll respond, Joel, Absolutely.
Mike Tadasco:I mean, that is a killer example right there.
Mike Tadasco:So when ChatGPT launched, there was actually somebody who did something very similar.
Mike Tadasco:They were a technologist.
Mike Tadasco:They would mentor as somebody who lived in their neighborhood who was starting a lawn care business.
Mike Tadasco:And he had some learning disabilities that made it like, nearly impossible for him to write an email out.
Mike Tadasco:But he was really good at what he does.
Mike Tadasco:Now, are you hiring somebody to converse over email?
Mike Tadasco:Are you hiring somebody to help with your lawn?
Mike Tadasco:I mean, that's what he does.
Mike Tadasco:And like, the email part was an impediment for his actual skills in that.
Mike Tadasco:So somebody built something.
Mike Tadasco:It was just what you described here for him.
Mike Tadasco:He would be able to kind of type out, hey, yeah, you know, kind of broken thoughts, for lack of a better term, if you will.
Mike Tadasco:But then the AI was able to take that as a response, spit it back out, and say, hey, this is the kind of email I want it to be.
Mike Tadasco:I want it to be nicely formed.
Mike Tadasco:I want it to be this.
Mike Tadasco:Like, you can even show it some examples when you're building this out and it could totally do that.
Mike Tadasco:So.
Mike Tadasco:So, yes, if you're reaching out to a booker versus, you know, a fellow comedian, the tone should be probably totally different in those two situations.
Mike Tadasco:You could just copy and paste.
Mike Tadasco:These are my thoughts.
Mike Tadasco:Now make this for appropriate for a booker who I've never met before, who is running a club out in Tallahassee and boom, throw it in there.
Mike Tadasco:It's going to then give you something.
Mike Tadasco:Copy and paste and send that off.
Mike Tadasco:That's a great example.
Yoshi:Yeah.
Yoshi:I've used AI for some nefarious things as well.
Yoshi:Not nefarious in a bad way.
Yoshi:Where I got rejected by a festival and I basically said, how do I tell these people to F off in the nicest way?
Yoshi:And it's been helpful.
Yoshi:It's so good.
Yoshi:It is so good.
Joel Byers:I wonder why you didn't get in the festival.
Yoshi:In a nice way.
Mike Tadasco:And the great thing is we're talking about ChatGPT and all that.
Mike Tadasco:Like, this is getting built into Gmail.
Mike Tadasco:This is getting built into all of the Outlook and all these tools you already look like work with.
Mike Tadasco:It might not be there yet within six months.
Mike Tadasco:It's just going to be.
Mike Tadasco:It's going to be ubiquitous.
Mike Tadasco:It's going to be wherever you're at.
Mike Tadasco:So you can do these kind of tools in there.
Mike Tadasco:You wouldn't even need to jump over to ChatGPT or whatever to do that.
Yoshi:Yeah.
Joel Byers:Is that.
Mike Tadasco:Where.
Joel Byers:Is that where it's headed?
Joel Byers:Where do you see it is kind of fragmented right now.
Joel Byers:Where do you see this evolving?
Mike Tadasco:So I think what we're going to see is AI will be everywhere.
Mike Tadasco:AI already kind of is everywhere.
Mike Tadasco:It's just usually behind the scenes, like AI already exists in your email.
Mike Tadasco:The reason why we don't get as much spam today as we did 15 years ago is because there are really complex.
Mike Tadasco:Some spam gets through, but there are AI engines that are kind of doing this in the background and they've been doing it like that for years to filter out all the spam to get that in there.
Mike Tadasco:No one could possibly write that in a computer program.
Mike Tadasco:It's artificial intelligence.
Mike Tadasco:That really is what makes that happen.
Mike Tadasco:So they're going to take those same type of models and you're going to see it in Gmail, you're going to see it in Notion, you're going to see it wherever it is.
Mike Tadasco:You know, Apple just launched their Apple Intelligence today.
Mike Tadasco:So that is going to be.
Mike Tadasco:It's going to be in your iPhone or your Android device or Whatever you have, it is going to be closer.
Mike Tadasco:But I would guess there is probably going to be more of like the world class type models.
Mike Tadasco:They probably won't make their way right now.
Mike Tadasco:Those are the chatgpts and Claude said you have to pay 20 bucks a month for.
Mike Tadasco:And again, it seems if you would have told myself five years ago, I'm going to give you the best AI model in the world, it's, you know, a thousand times more powerful than today.
Mike Tadasco:It's only going to cost $20.
Mike Tadasco:I would have been like, that's, that's insane.
Mike Tadasco:But like really that, that's all these things cost, you know, so you could do just so much with them.
Mike Tadasco:But like I think that will still be separates but for most tasks, for most uses that people want, it's going to be in device or in the application you're in.
Joel Byers:Okay.
Joel Byers:It's interesting there was Colin in the chat said Colin Chapman had, he's trained chatgpt to be his comedy writing mentor and he's added like hours of transcripts and writing comedy writing books and videos from classes and now it can almost just like help him write as like you said, like a companion almost.
Joel Byers:Yeah.
Joel Byers:And I do want to make sure, I think I said earlier I referenced Conan.
Joel Byers:I wasn't.
Joel Byers:I just ethically.
Joel Byers:Because this has actually come up in our Facebook group as well.
Joel Byers:There was a discussion about what are the ethics of using AI.
Joel Byers:And it's not using AI to say write me jokes like Conan O'Brien.
Joel Byers:I didn't want me saying that earlier to come off in that way.
Joel Byers:It's more of just qualifying the GPT chat, the AI that oh, you've worked with these other comedians, you're very professional now use those skills to help me.
Joel Byers:And maybe you could insert, maybe you're more sarcastic comedian or more playful and you could say write jokes in that tone.
Joel Byers:So it's more in your Persona as opposed to trying to like write in someone else's comedic voice.
Joel Byers:You want it to be in your voice so it's actually authentic 100%.
Mike Tadasco:And I think that's one of the most important things.
Mike Tadasco:Like I actually hate the phrase AI.
Mike Tadasco:Like artificial intelligence itself is.
Mike Tadasco:It means like it's almost like a separate being.
Mike Tadasco:But these are not beings, these are just computer programs.
Mike Tadasco:They're zeros and ones.
Mike Tadasco:And I like to, whenever I can I try and use the phrase augmented intelligence.
Mike Tadasco:Like it should be there to augment you and what you do and your voice and all of the things that make you special, you unique.
Mike Tadasco:We're all our own little snowflakes here.
Mike Tadasco:And, like, the AI is just going to make us snowflake here, if you will, or whatever it might be.
Mike Tadasco:And I think it is important to, like, to steer clear of that.
Mike Tadasco:Like, you know, I think when I was mentioning the people I mentioned burning, I was trying to.
Mike Tadasco:People who've already deceased, like, you know, like.
Mike Tadasco:So I think it is better to steer clear of live people, anything like that, because frankly, the copyright law is still murky on that.
Mike Tadasco:Like, ethics aside, at least in the United States, it still ain't clear.
Mike Tadasco:So as much as possible, be descriptive, or as the person in the chat said, like, use your own work and say, hey, this is what my work is like.
Mike Tadasco:So given this type of work, let's do more work like that.
Mike Tadasco:And that is what the AI should be doing for you.
Mike Tadasco:I think it's a great example.
Mike Tadasco:I mean, one.
Mike Tadasco:And again, I never was going to make money off this.
Mike Tadasco:But in a similar example I had done, this was a couple of years back, I actually tried to make a weird Al AI.
Mike Tadasco:This was before ChatGPT was even released.
Mike Tadasco:I took all of the original lyrics for songs that Weird Al made fun of, and then I took all the Weird Al lyrics, and I basically made like this huge spreadsheet of these two things.
Mike Tadasco:And I was like, okay.
Mike Tadasco:And then at the other end of it, I said, AI, if I give you the lyrics for this song now, make it about eating jalapenos in the style of Weird Al.
Mike Tadasco:And look, it can do those kind of things pretty darn well.
Mike Tadasco:It really can.
Mike Tadasco:But is that what we want?
Mike Tadasco:I mean, and that's the ultimate question.
Mike Tadasco:Like, I think AI can do that.
Mike Tadasco:I think AI could probably replicate Conan.
Mike Tadasco:It could do all this stuff, you know, ethics aside or legality aside, like, is that really what you want your AI to do, or do you want to just let your AI be more of you?
Mike Tadasco:And I think that's the thing.
Mike Tadasco:That's.
Mike Tadasco:That we all need to just really focus on.
Yoshi:Yeah, I'm working on AI.
Yoshi:Make me the money that Conan is making.
Yoshi:And if that works, then.
Joel Byers:Amen.
Joel Byers:Amen.
Joel Byers:Let amuse you, Yoshi.
Joel Byers:Did my wife send you here?
Joel Byers:Is that.
Joel Byers:Is that what's going on?
Yoshi:Yeah, no, that.
Yoshi:That makes a lot of sense.
Yoshi:I mean, I think, you know, as you mentioned, sort of the ethics and all those pieces, because we're still.
Yoshi:To your point, it's still very murky and I think maybe help everyone explain.
Yoshi:Sort of like, you know, I kind of know what a language Model is.
Yoshi:And I kind of know what AI is.
Yoshi:Like how do you explain this to comedians around how to use AI and is it just using those platforms and prompting or are there other things that they can use and leverage AI for?
Yoshi:Right, so like for example, I'm using like the Google LLM and it's basically I put all my content in there because I have years of notes and it's just my material.
Yoshi:And I said, okay, give me 10 material pieces that I have on waffle houses over the years.
Yoshi:And it just spits back every material and it sources it for me.
Yoshi:And I say, okay, can you clean this up for me as well?
Yoshi:So it'll clean it up and says, all right, make this more of a one liner in my own voice.
Yoshi:So I would love to know.
Yoshi:So like that's just Google LLM.
Yoshi:Outside of chat, are there other tools that you would sort of advise comedians?
Yoshi:Right, so from a comedian perspective, we do a lot of emails, we're sending out a bunch of availability to comedy clubs, we're getting a lot of rejection letters from festivals, we're reaching out to people about, hey, can I do a show here?
Yoshi:Those are the kinds of things that I would say sort of as independent artists that we're constantly doing.
Yoshi:What other things do you think of could help us sort of just be better comedians and better entrepreneurs in that comedy ecosystem?
Mike Tadasco:Yeah, Yoshi, it's a great question.
Mike Tadasco:And here's for anybody who's out there, here's how I think about it.
Mike Tadasco:I would basically say, if I had Conan money, what would I then do?
Mike Tadasco:Like, who would I hire on my team?
Mike Tadasco:You know, you'd hire somebody to help you for booking.
Mike Tadasco:You'd hire somebody to help you do punch ups or whatever it might be.
Mike Tadasco:You'd hire this, this, this.
Mike Tadasco:Like if you had Conan type money or Conan type resources, what would you then do with that?
Mike Tadasco:And then I would kind of go like step by step with that.
Mike Tadasco:And look, I think ultimately something that is like really your core competency, the AI will not be able to do as well as you.
Mike Tadasco:So hopefully that is, you know, writing and performing jokes, like hopefully that's a core competency and like that's key to what you do.
Mike Tadasco:So take that off, you know, put that aside for the time being.
Mike Tadasco:But all the other things, the booking and the emails and whatever goes, you know, whatever the other steps and the things that you do in your jobs, think about those and you know, you can use a bunch of tools there, there are other things that, you know, maybe they would be 5, 10% better, potentially, because they're tailoring in some direction.
Mike Tadasco:But honestly, for most of these things that you're doing, like what you can do in ChatGPT or Claude is going to get you everything that you need.
Mike Tadasco:Like, I never, especially when people are starting off with the tools, I never want to overcomplicate things because, yes, there are some other tools that maybe are marginally better or whatever it might be, but frankly, a lot of these tools use ChatGPT on the black, on the back end.
Mike Tadasco:They just literally don't tell you that.
Mike Tadasco:They're literally saying to you, yeah, like, they don't say, like, oh, that's actually chatgpt.
Mike Tadasco:That's powering this thing on the other side.
Mike Tadasco:So just use those tools directly, is what I would say.
Mike Tadasco:And within ChatGPT, you can actually create things and it's called custom GPTs.
Mike Tadasco:So you can, you know, if you're paying, I think you do have to pay the 20 bucks a month to get access to this.
Mike Tadasco:If you pay that, you can upload your stuff in there, you can keep your files in there.
Mike Tadasco:And then whenever you want to say, like, hey, you know, just say you put all your notes in there.
Mike Tadasco:Say, like, hey, you know, the jets just lost.
Mike Tadasco:Like, have.
Mike Tadasco:Have I.
Mike Tadasco:Do I have any notes about the jets losing games or any jokes that I've used over time?
Mike Tadasco:Like, I want to post something on Twitter, and boom, you put it in there, it's going to look through all your stuff and say, nope, I don't see anything in there.
Mike Tadasco:Or, yep, I do see something in there.
Mike Tadasco:You could tweak that, post it on Twitter.
Mike Tadasco:Do whatever you want to do with that, because the jets just got blown out again.
Joel Byers:Yeah, it.
Joel Byers:Steve Polger commented that Joel's wife thinks AI stands for another income.
Joel Byers:And Kashif just said they're a newer comedian that uses it, ChatGPT, to coach them on crowd work and handling hecklers.
Joel Byers:Interesting.
Mike Tadasco:So.
Mike Tadasco:So I assume they're actually putting in what the hecklers are saying or something.
Mike Tadasco:Or like, at this point in my, like, how.
Mike Tadasco:I mean, you could have ChatGPT heckle you.
Mike Tadasco:There's actually a voice mode of ChatGPT.
Mike Tadasco:This is really interesting.
Mike Tadasco:I don't know if this is what they're doing.
Mike Tadasco:There's a voice mode and imagine if Siri worked.
Mike Tadasco:That's the only way I know how to explain it.
Mike Tadasco:Imagine if Siri worked.
Mike Tadasco:In this conversation.
Mike Tadasco:You can actually probably say, hey, I'm going to give you my act based on what I'm saying or doing here.
Mike Tadasco:At certain points, I want you to heckle me and then I'm going to say something back and then I want.
Mike Tadasco:And then when I'm done with that, I want you to actually critique the heckling and how you think the audience would react to that.
Mike Tadasco:At this point of the show.
Mike Tadasco:I don't know how good it's going to be, but, like, I would.
Mike Tadasco:I think that'd be a fascinating experiment to kind of try out.
Yoshi:That's so next level.
Yoshi:I love that.
Joel Byers:Yeah, that's interesting.
Mike Tadasco:I don't have.
Mike Tadasco:I'm going to do like a George Carlin bit or something and I'm going to have to do it myself, I think.
Joel Byers:Yeah.
Joel Byers:Cash have said they.
Joel Byers:They use it.
Joel Byers:ChatGPT will come up with scenarios based on the kind of clubs they're at and then evaluating their response.
Joel Byers:Interesting.
Yoshi:Yeah.
Joel Byers:Like an on demand coach.
Mike Tadasco:I love that.
Mike Tadasco:That's super smart.
Joel Byers:So, Bob.
Joel Byers:Bob Kirk, the winner of this month's Hundred Joke contest as well, by the way, if anyone wants to join November's It's Linked in the show notes.
Joel Byers:But Bob asked is it all about the quality of the prompts when working with AI?
Mike Tadasco:I'd say largely yes, because these things could theoretically produce any response possible if you know the old trope of monkey.
Mike Tadasco:Put enough monkeys in a room typing shake and eventually you'll get Shakespeare out of it.
Mike Tadasco:You know, like that.
Mike Tadasco:That, that old trope like that is true with AI it just doesn't take as many monkeys to do that.
Mike Tadasco:So theoretically, you could get almost any kind of result.
Mike Tadasco:Like it could give the best joke you've ever heard in your life on that.
Mike Tadasco:Like it.
Mike Tadasco:It's possible these things tend to skew to the average versus the best just because they're kind of.
Mike Tadasco:They're based on, you know, they've been trained on everything that's good and funny on Reddit and everything that's bad and unfunny on Reddit and it's.
Mike Tadasco:It doesn't have that risk discerning palette that humans really have.
Mike Tadasco:But like, theoretically, like, the better you prompt for sure, the better your results are going to be and the more time you spend with the models, the better you get at prompting.
Yoshi:Yeah, maybe Tony Hinchcliffe should have asked AI, should I do these jokes at this?
Mike Tadasco:No one knew about that.
Mike Tadasco:Yeah.
Joel Byers:They know now.
Yoshi:They know now.
Joel Byers:They know now.
Joel Byers:Yeah, everyone knows now.
Joel Byers:I'm wondering if, I don't know if we could do like a demonstration.
Joel Byers:I don't know.
Joel Byers:Do you think we'd be able to do that for the.
Joel Byers:For the kids out there.
Mike Tadasco:What do we want?
Mike Tadasco:What do we want to demo?
Mike Tadasco:What do we want to try out here?
Mike Tadasco:I can guide you guys.
Mike Tadasco:You tell me.
Mike Tadasco:Let's do a live demo.
Mike Tadasco:I love live demos.
Joel Byers:Yeah.
Joel Byers:If it's like, even just, like a joke idea, we could just like, have a premise and then try to punch it up with Chat GPT maybe.
Mike Tadasco:Okay, you want to do Chat GPT?
Mike Tadasco:Then I'll get it open and I.
Joel Byers:Think you can share your screen.
Mike Tadasco:Share my screen?
Joel Byers:Let me see.
Joel Byers:Then I have to bring it up.
Joel Byers:One sec.
Joel Byers:Let's go.
Mike Tadasco:When you see that.
Joel Byers:Okay, one sec.
Joel Byers:We have to pull up a new window.
Joel Byers:Oh, oh, so that's him.
Joel Byers:One sec.
Joel Byers:We're trying something new here, y'all.
Joel Byers:We're getting fancy.
Mike Tadasco:Live demo you guys have had.
Joel Byers:This is.
Joel Byers:So any technical difficulties are excusable, unlike all the others we've had today.
Joel Byers:So let me see if we just bring it up there.
Joel Byers:Yeah, I think everyone can see that.
Joel Byers:Yeah, I'll just take.
Mike Tadasco:Okay.
Mike Tadasco:All right, gentlemen, you are the comedians here.
Mike Tadasco:So how do we want to punch this up?
Mike Tadasco:What type of jokes?
Mike Tadasco:What do we want here?
Mike Tadasco:And say some more and then I'll put it in and we'll see what it does.
Joel Byers:I.
Joel Byers:I could work on a premise.
Joel Byers:I have a joke about my wife and I basically having different relationships with our phone battery.
Joel Byers:Like, you know, she, like, I like my phone completely charged.
Joel Byers:She's always on 1%.
Joel Byers:So, I mean, the joke right now is I had no idea I married a 1 percenter.
Joel Byers:And then she's talking about wanting kids, but she can't even keep a phone alive.
Joel Byers:So that's basically the joke right now.
Yoshi:Yeah, I think something.
Yoshi:Yeah.
Yoshi:As you're writing that, I would love to see chat sort of expand the joke and.
Yoshi:Or give me more ideas to make this joke longer.
Mike Tadasco:Okay.
Mike Tadasco:And I wish I'm going to tell the punch up a joke.
Mike Tadasco:Here's the premise, and then I'm going to do that.
Mike Tadasco:And then I'm just going to kind of do this.
Mike Tadasco:A little separator now.
Joel Byers:Oops, sorry.
Mike Tadasco:Let's just say three.
Mike Tadasco:Oh, wait, what happened?
Mike Tadasco:Did we lose?
Joel Byers:Oh, no.
Joel Byers:Then I was.
Joel Byers:I was trying to bring up to where we could still see you as you're working.
Joel Byers:So I was just.
Mike Tadasco:Oh, you don't need to see me.
Mike Tadasco:They know what I look like, so they've seen enough of me.
Mike Tadasco:Please.
Joel Byers:No, please.
Mike Tadasco:And expand this out of this.
Mike Tadasco:Again, is only a premise.
Mike Tadasco:And again, you Want to be telling this?
Mike Tadasco:Like, where do you want to tell this joke?
Mike Tadasco:Is this, like, in clubs?
Mike Tadasco:Like, where are the clubs?
Joel Byers:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joel Byers:I mean, my audience is more, you know, I like older, rich people.
Joel Byers:That's really been my demo.
Joel Byers:I like audiences with money now, but it could be, like, family friendly.
Joel Byers:I'm a clean comedian, so maybe that could be almost part of a.
Joel Byers:A detail within the responses it gives that I'm a.
Joel Byers:I'm a clean comedian.
Mike Tadasco:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mike Tadasco:Okay, so I want you to help out with the joke.
Mike Tadasco:Here's the premise.
Mike Tadasco:And I always just kind of do this, just so it's very clear what it is.
Mike Tadasco:Wife and I have a different relationship.
Mike Tadasco:And the great thing is if you don't spell things correctly, it doesn't really matter.
Mike Tadasco:With our phone batteries, I'm at 100%.
Mike Tadasco:She is, like, never charged.
Mike Tadasco:You said 1%.
Mike Tadasco:I.
Mike Tadasco:E.
Mike Tadasco:1%.
Mike Tadasco:Now give me three different concepts.
Mike Tadasco:I'll give feedback at the end.
Mike Tadasco:Okay, so that's it.
Mike Tadasco:And then we're going.
Mike Tadasco:And we're going to see.
Mike Tadasco:Okay.
Mike Tadasco:All right.
Mike Tadasco:Okay.
Mike Tadasco:Hold on.
Mike Tadasco:The thing is, the speed is next level with this.
Mike Tadasco:Do you want me to read this for folks then kind of.
Joel Byers:Yeah, yeah.
Joel Byers:What it.
Mike Tadasco:What it.
Joel Byers:What it came up with here?
Mike Tadasco:Yeah.
Mike Tadasco:Okay, so.
Joel Byers:And what was the prompt again?
Joel Byers:I'm trying to see.
Mike Tadasco:Let me move up.
Yoshi:Oh, that's so funny.
Joel Byers:Oh, even the first one.
Joel Byers:So, hey, we want you to help us punch up a joke.
Joel Byers:Here's the premise.
Yoshi:Yeah, yeah.
Mike Tadasco:So this was the premise.
Mike Tadasco:And then I asked for three different concepts, and I emphasize this is only a premise.
Mike Tadasco:So just start from here, punch it up, expand it out.
Joel Byers:Gotcha.
Mike Tadasco:And so the first one I gave was this.
Mike Tadasco:Battery life, priorities.
Mike Tadasco:And.
Yoshi:Yeah, you're on 100.
Mike Tadasco:Yeah, sorry.
Yoshi:That is.
Yoshi:Sorry.
Yoshi:I'm just reading it off.
Yoshi:Like, the fact that you're running on 100 and she's running on vibes is so funny, Joel.
Joel Byers:I was like, oh, that is a funny line.
Yoshi:Yeah.
Joel Byers:Interesting.
Joel Byers:100 and she's running on vibes.
Yoshi:That's very funny.
Joel Byers:Expanded, fully charged phone survival.
Joel Byers:It's right there.
Joel Byers:Food, water, and coffee.
Joel Byers:My wife, she's like, I'll figure it out.
Joel Byers:She's on 1% like an Olympic sport.
Joel Byers:She wants to raise kids, but I can barely trust her to raise her phone above low power mode.
Joel Byers:And God forbid she needs it in an emergency.
Joel Byers:When her battery hits 10%, she looks at it like she just discovered it's got a ticking timer or something.
Joel Byers:I thought we had more Time.
Joel Byers:Interesting.
Joel Byers:It does almost like act outs as well.
Joel Byers:Yeah, I bet.
Joel Byers:Kind of like how Colin was using it.
Joel Byers:If you train the AI on different techniques, it could probably incorporate like, oh, maybe a callback or more act outs or things like that as well.
Mike Tadasco:Absolutely.
Mike Tadasco:That is one of the beautiful things here.
Mike Tadasco:I mean, there is, believe me, there's no comedy that it has learned about me and any of the prompts that I have been giving it into here.
Mike Tadasco:So, like, this has been.
Mike Tadasco:But if that's what you do for a living and you start to, again, just like, have that in the memory bank, so to speak, of ChatGPT, it's going to start to learn.
Mike Tadasco:And even with the exact same prompt that I gave here, your results would be different because it's going to have that kind of past knowledge about you and it's going to tweak all of these based on that.
Joel Byers:Yeah.
Joel Byers:And Bob asked a good question about, since it's scraping the Internet, could it possibly plagiarize someone else's jokes?
Mike Tadasco:Possibly.
Mike Tadasco:Of course.
Mike Tadasco:Yes.
Mike Tadasco:Yes.
Joel Byers:Yeah.
Mike Tadasco:I mean, I mean, it is possible.
Mike Tadasco:How these things work, though.
Mike Tadasco:It is.
Mike Tadasco:It's a database looking for relationships.
Mike Tadasco:This is all math.
Mike Tadasco:And I won't get too technical here, but it's not like it actually has, you know, it doesn't have all of, you know, Robin Williams at, you know, his act or something like that.
Mike Tadasco:It doesn't, like, have the years and years of that just like sitting somewhere that it's going to pull from.
Mike Tadasco:But it sees relationships between words and it's always trying to predict the next word.
Mike Tadasco:And if it sees a pattern often enough, it is going to probably find a way to make a similar pattern to that which very well could be tied to someone else's joke.
Mike Tadasco:So I don't know.
Mike Tadasco:I mean, so if you're using this in Gemini jokes, I'd probably recommend, you know, be a little bit weary of, like, doing, again, 30 minutes of content from here.
Mike Tadasco:You know, probably want to put that through a plagiarism checker, do some Google searches on a few of the things, spot check it, make sure it makes sense.
Mike Tadasco:But again, it's not going to give you a good 30 minutes.
Mike Tadasco:It's going to give you, you know, it's going to help you punch up a concept just like what it did here.
Yoshi:Yeah, but also that's the same.
Yoshi:You're running into the same thing when you tell a joke on stage.
Yoshi:Is that somebody.
Yoshi:That's somebody else's joke.
Yoshi:Right.
Yoshi:Very rarely are we researching somebody else's Joke, even as comedians, especially if it's like our own story.
Yoshi:Like, Joel, actually, I know that for sure he has, like, this is happening in his life.
Yoshi:His wife is literally on 1% and it's getting him so upset, so he's not going out into the world.
Yoshi:Do you have this problem?
Yoshi:Do you have this problem?
Yoshi:Does you know what I'm saying?
Yoshi:So, like, this is.
Yoshi:We.
Yoshi:We run into the same issue where somebody will be like, hey, I think that's somebody's joke.
Yoshi:That's really the only time we know that that is somebody's joke as well.
Yoshi:Like, we also look through the Internet, like, I'm doing the source checks, and I'm doing, like, you know, I'll look up different things on different phrases or different idioms as well, and try to find idioms that I can use in a joke.
Yoshi:It's like, I know that the idiom has been used before, but in this context, it's for this joke that I'm writing.
Yoshi:So if I say something like, do not threaten me with a good time.
Yoshi:I know that people have used that, but in the context that I'm using it, no one's going to be like, oh, you stole that phrase.
Yoshi:Do not threaten me with the good time.
Yoshi:That's like a universe that people say, yeah, but, yeah, I mean.
Mike Tadasco:I mean, you're right.
Mike Tadasco:Yeah, Yoshi.
Mike Tadasco:I think it's a great example.
Mike Tadasco:And to bring up a parallel example kind of from my past life, I would file a lot of patents when I was at PayPal, you know, and patents are kind of, by definition, an invention that no one has thought of before.
Mike Tadasco:But every patent itself has dozens of references to all of the ideas that came before it.
Mike Tadasco:And some are closer, some are further away.
Mike Tadasco:Like, legally, you actually have to reference all of those different things on there, because, like, in reality, you know, people will often have the same idea at the same time.
Mike Tadasco:Alexander Graham Bell, the dude who created the phone, he is only attributed to be the inventor of the phone because he beat this another guy by, like, an hour to the patent office, because that's how they used to do it.
Mike Tadasco:Like, you had to run it to the office, who had basically the exact same idea because it was built on all this other stuff.
Mike Tadasco:And it literally came down to being, like, the inventor beating them out by hours.
Mike Tadasco:And they.
Mike Tadasco:They had the same idea at the same time.
Mike Tadasco:And that's just a kind of a reality of folks.
Mike Tadasco:And that's one of the reasons.
Mike Tadasco:I mean, that's what makes comedy so great, right?
Mike Tadasco:You tell this Story like, Joel, you talk about the battery.
Mike Tadasco:I'm like, oh my God, I could relate to that.
Mike Tadasco:Right?
Mike Tadasco:You just packaged it in a way.
Mike Tadasco:I mean, the audience couldn't relate to it.
Mike Tadasco:Then we wouldn't find it funny.
Mike Tadasco:But because we can.
Mike Tadasco:That's, that's part of the magic of it.
Joel Byers:Yeah.
Joel Byers:That's why I picked that joke because it's, it's newer.
Joel Byers:But when I do it, people at the table are always pointing at the person that's always on 1% or after the show they're like, oh, I need my phone always charged as well.
Joel Byers:So it's very relatable.
Joel Byers:So I was like, there's.
Joel Byers:There's something there that I can build on.
Joel Byers:Yeah, so I see.
Joel Byers:It's like.
Mike Tadasco:And that's the great thing.
Joel Byers:Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
Joel Byers:I was just going to.
Mike Tadasco:Oh, sorry.
Mike Tadasco:The great thing about a little delay now, great thing about the tools is that you can test out concepts.
Mike Tadasco:I am sure everybody out there who's a comedian kind of has a graveyard of like, ah, these things just weren't working.
Mike Tadasco:These jokes just like, never really hits.
Mike Tadasco:And like you put them in some file folder somewhere and you're like, eh, you could just upload them all and say, hey, ChatGPT, punch these up based on my thing.
Mike Tadasco:Like, and then you can take another look at it with a fresh set of eyes and say like, oh, okay, like, that's a different way to look at it.
Mike Tadasco:Let me now expand that out a little bit more so.
Mike Tadasco:And they will do this instantaneously.
Mike Tadasco:I mean that is just a huge, huge help for any comedian out there.
Joel Byers:Yeah, yeah.
Joel Byers:And as you mentioned, it being.
Joel Byers:Because like, I see another one here, it says like, the battery life is like a new love language.
Joel Byers:So even if it's.
Joel Byers:It doesn't necessarily write a new joke for you, it sparks new inspiration that you may be able to then build upon.
Joel Byers:Because battery life being like, maybe the sixth love language could be a funny possible angle on it as well.
Yoshi:That's so funny.
Yoshi:Yeah, that is very funny.
Yoshi:Like, even just that.
Yoshi:So what do you provide for your wife?
Yoshi:Power.
Yoshi:That's it.
Yoshi:That's it.
Joel Byers:Yeah, I'm all for equality, honey.
Yoshi:Yeah, I'm all about quality equality.
Joel Byers:Here, honey.
Joel Byers:What was the other one?
Joel Byers:What?
Joel Byers:What was the second one?
Mike Tadasco:Second one.
Mike Tadasco:Here, let me scroll up.
Mike Tadasco:Sorry, let me.
Joel Byers:No, you're fine.
Joel Byers:I didn't know how many it spit out.
Mike Tadasco:Always borrowing the charger.
Joel Byers:Always borrowing the charger.
Joel Byers:And then there's also probably an inverse of like my version of this for her.
Joel Byers:So it's like her being on 1% gives.
Joel Byers:Gives me anxiety, so I wonder what I do that gives her anxiety.
Joel Byers:So maybe there's a parallel there, because you always want to.
Joel Byers:You'd always want to be hitting from both sides.
Joel Byers:That's something Nate Bargazzi told us on the show.
Joel Byers:Is he all.
Joel Byers:He wants to, at the end of the day, be the butt of the joke and not hit?
Joel Byers:He does a lot of wife jokes, but at the end of the day, he's the punchline, not his wife.
Mike Tadasco:Always.
Mike Tadasco:Nate's so damn good.
Mike Tadasco:So.
Mike Tadasco:So here I just said.
Mike Tadasco:I basically said, flip the script.
Mike Tadasco:So now tell me those jokes from my wife's perspective.
Mike Tadasco:Make it three jokes.
Mike Tadasco:So it's kind of doing it like I'm married to a charger freak, so it looks at the opposite side of that.
Yoshi:So funny.
Yoshi:I think that's funny.
Yoshi:Is like, the opposite.
Yoshi:End of the spectrum is a hilarious joke.
Mike Tadasco:Yeah.
Joel Byers:Opposites attract.
Joel Byers:So she said, I married a charger freak, so that's funny.
Joel Byers:Yeah.
Joel Byers:To her, I'm.
Joel Byers:She's the weirdo, but I'm actually the weirdo to her.
Yoshi:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yoshi:Because I do think it's weird that people keep their charged phones, like, on 100.
Yoshi:I'm like, what are you.
Yoshi:What are you doing?
Yoshi:Don't you not use it?
Yoshi:And I remember me and Joe were at a gig, and I was like.
Yoshi:And he asked me what my charger was on.
Yoshi:I think I was like, oh, it's like at 15.
Yoshi:I looked at his phone.
Yoshi:It was like, at 92%, I was like, when are you using your phone?
Yoshi:What are you doing?
Yoshi:I was about 90.
Mike Tadasco:When the zombie apocalypse comes, Joel will be ready, and he will be laughing because none of us.
Mike Tadasco:None of the rest of us will be able to use Google Maps, but he will, so.
Joel Byers:Yes, that's right.
Joel Byers:That's right.
Mike Tadasco:So, yeah, that's.
Joel Byers:Oh, we got a super chat.
Joel Byers:Look at that.
Joel Byers:Oh, yay.
Mike Tadasco:Do you want me.
Mike Tadasco:Should I keep this up?
Mike Tadasco:Should I stop?
Joel Byers:I think we got the gist there.
Joel Byers:That was a really cool exercise, even, of just seeing how basically you write your joke from one point of view and then figure out how to do it from another point of view.
Joel Byers:Yeah, I don't know where we are.
Joel Byers:There we are.
Joel Byers:What is this?
Joel Byers:But yeah, thank you, Mike.
Joel Byers:That was super.
Joel Byers:And speaking of super, we got a super chat here from Minnow Care.
Joel Byers:Farley said.
Joel Byers:Thank you.
Joel Byers:Always loving it.
Joel Byers:Hot breath, always going into the future.
Yoshi:Thank you so much.
Joel Byers:That's what we're all about.
Joel Byers:Thank you so much for that lovely, super chat there and everyone that hung out on this live stream.
Joel Byers:Thank you so much.
Joel Byers:We do these every Tuesday at 5pm Eastern Standard Time as we land this plane.
Joel Byers:Mike, is there anything else that comics should know you want to leave us with?
Joel Byers:How do we land this plane?
Joel Byers:Here.
Mike Tadasco:Here's what I would say.
Mike Tadasco:One takeaway from all this.
Mike Tadasco:And look, comedians should be good at this, but ultimately, embrace your inner child.
Mike Tadasco:Whenever I give a presentation to students on the subject of AI, one of the things I tell everybody is like, you got to explore, you got to try stuff.
Mike Tadasco:Sometimes you're just going to fail.
Mike Tadasco:You're going to hit a wall, it's going to not work.
Mike Tadasco:And then all of a sudden, miraculously, it's going to work.
Mike Tadasco:And just like you're a kid trying to figure out how to play a game you've never played before, this is something that's brand new.
Mike Tadasco:It is scary because these things have infinite possibilities and we as humans aren't always comfortable.
Mike Tadasco:We'd rather have something where you could just do A, B or C versus A through infinity.
Mike Tadasco:And I think that's really hard for us to grasp.
Mike Tadasco:So, again, just the more you play this stuff, the better off you're going to be.
Mike Tadasco:And look, if there's any way I could help in the journey.
Mike Tadasco:I write a lot about this on Medium and LinkedIn.
Mike Tadasco:It's all free.
Mike Tadasco:I try to make.
Mike Tadasco:I'm not making any money off this stuff.
Mike Tadasco:I just like to help people.
Mike Tadasco:So if I could be helpful to you all, please reach out.
Yoshi:That's fantastic.
Joel Byers:I love that.
Joel Byers:Yeah.
Joel Byers:So the best way is probably connect with you on LinkedIn.
Joel Byers:If people had any questions or anything.
Yoshi:Hey, Comedians Link is this place?
Joel Byers:Yeah.
Mike Tadasco:Think about LinkedIn.
Mike Tadasco:So, fun fact, this is, this is, this is what would be known as a callback, I guess, but I'm actually connected to Conan O'Brien on LinkedIn because way back in the day, Conan was actually trying to be the king of LinkedIn.
Mike Tadasco: This was: Mike Tadasco:Conan was trying to be the king of LinkedIn, was just connecting with everybody on there.
Mike Tadasco:So occasionally I will see, oh, I'm connected to that person.
Mike Tadasco:How is that?
Mike Tadasco:Oh, it's through Conan, who I actually don't even know, but he's my one comedian friend on LinkedIn.
Mike Tadasco:But if you want to be another one of my comedian friends on LinkedIn, please connect with me.
Joel Byers:Absolutely.
Joel Byers:I will definitely do that.
Joel Byers:So, Mike, thank you so much for your time.
Joel Byers:I will share the links to those in the show notes and I'll also share a link to where people can join next month's writing contest and also Yoshi's new special out on our YouTube channel.
Joel Byers:Right now we're all about comics helping comics and we're gonna start showcasing more of the hot breath of earth here on our channel.
Joel Byers:So we appreciate all the love and support everyone has shown.
Joel Byers:And like Mike has said, doing it for free.
Joel Byers:Us as well, doing it for the love of the game, which our wives love.
Joel Byers:But no, everything's going great.
Joel Byers:So we're so grateful for all of this.
Joel Byers:So please join us next Tuesday at 5:00pm Eastern Standard Time for next week's livestream.
Joel Byers:But until then, I think we're done here.
Joel Byers:Gentlemen, we appreciate everyone for hanging out.
Joel Byers:We love you all.
Yoshi:Yeah.
Yoshi:And Mike, when we leave, when we sign off, we dab to sign off.
Yoshi:So you gotta dab with us when we sign off.
Mike Tadasco:Oh my God.
Mike Tadasco:My 13 year old is not gonna be.
Mike Tadasco:Yeah.
Joel Byers:Bye, y'all.
Joel Byers:Hot breath.
