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#055 - Should You Take Notes on Stage?, Roast Culture in Comedy, Doing Drunk Comedy + MORE
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Welcome back, everyone.
Speaker A:We're here.
Speaker A:Hot Breath, your weekly comedy tune up with comedians Joel Byers and Yoshi.
Speaker A:So hope you all had a good week out there.
Speaker A:Yoshi was roasting my hair before this.
Speaker A:It's getting.
Speaker A:It's getting out of hand.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:But I just saw Joel this weekend, just saw Joe, and he was buttoned up.
Speaker B:He was just smooth.
Speaker B:He was performing.
Speaker B:He just crushed on the show, and he was just in good spirits.
Speaker B:And then I saw him this morning, and I was like, man, it looked like the weekend won Joel Byers 0.
Speaker B:Because it looked like on your face, your hair.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:For those of the.
Speaker A:For those of you that want to see, I'm gonna post this video on the Patreon.
Speaker A:But it is a.
Speaker A:It's real out here in these streets, dudes.
Speaker B:Real out here in these streets.
Speaker A:I mean, the show you saw me at, Yeah, I had been up since 5am that day.
Speaker B:Let's go.
Speaker A:You know, my wife and I are in the local rose society, so this weekend was the big Mother's Day rose show that our group does at the Atlanta Botanical Gardens.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So we were up at 5:00am I mean.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:What were y' all doing?
Speaker B:Like, what.
Speaker B:What does that mean when you're in a rose society?
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:This is some very next level.
Speaker B:I thought I knew everything about hoas in gardening and the architectural committee, but this I have no clue on.
Speaker B:So give us just a snippet of what it is to be in a rose garden group so I can go tell my grandma.
Speaker A:I do have.
Speaker A:I do have.
Speaker A:One of my favorite new jokes is that some people marry their mothers.
Speaker A:I married my grandmother.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:And it crushes everything.
Speaker A:I love that joke.
Speaker A:But, I mean, it's just kind of like a club.
Speaker A:Like, we do monthly meetings based on different topics, and we'll do at the Carter Center.
Speaker A:We maintain the rose garden there, and we'll go and prune and dig up or plant new roses and things like that.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's basically just like a club with old people.
Speaker A:And then my wife and I.
Speaker A:My wife and me.
Speaker A:Yeah, it really is.
Speaker A:And we.
Speaker A:Last weekend, we went and toured one of the members who.
Speaker A:She's like an award.
Speaker A:She won Best in show.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:It really is like the movie Best in show that they did with dogs.
Speaker A:Like, there could be a movie about this, and there should be, and there might be, and there might be down the road.
Speaker B:There's any investors, Kickstarter, but it is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:She had, like, 300 roses.
Speaker A:It was incredible.
Speaker B:Say what Is it a competitive, like.
Speaker B:Like, is it kind of like best in show competitive like that there, dude?
Speaker A:Very like, they are it, dude.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:You could cut the tension with a knife at this because it is like, it's a show, but it's also a contest.
Speaker A:There's judges and they review the roses and things.
Speaker A:And like.
Speaker A:Yeah, before the show, people are super tense, like, working on their roses and doing all these different things.
Speaker A:And then like, after the show, while the judges are judging the roses, everyone's just drinking wine at like 11 in the morning or 10 in the morning.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I did that all day and then basically went straight to the show after and then did two shows where you saw me on the second one, which I think.
Speaker A:I think this is a cautionary tale for comics.
Speaker A:You know, I like.
Speaker A:I like to be bad sometimes, you know, Miyoshi, I want to feel bad.
Speaker A:I want to be a rebel.
Speaker A:I wanna.
Speaker A:I wanna go back to college.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:I want.
Speaker A:I want that every minute of every day of my life.
Speaker A:And I'm constantly battling that impulse just to eat and drink everything.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:You gotta.
Speaker B:You got a bad boy streak in you that shows up every once in a while.
Speaker B:I think I'm also a culprit because I like to egg upon because I want to see it, because we always have a good time.
Speaker A:That's what jb, one of the guys that runs that show, he wants me to do it.
Speaker A:He's like, I just want you to do a dirty set.
Speaker A:I just want you to do one dirty set.
Speaker B:Yeah, I know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Talking about that for a while.
Speaker B:He's like, man, I want to see.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So bad.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, like, I.
Speaker A:I headlined their first show.
Speaker A:Their seven o' clock show went amazing.
Speaker A:Sold a bunch of merch.
Speaker A:I was like, yes.
Speaker A:You know, comedy.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:So then the second show was kind of.
Speaker A:It's like a crowd work show and there's like bucket where you could pull out topics.
Speaker A:So I was like kind of feeling my oats, as they say.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:The show's at a brewery.
Speaker A:JB runs the brewery.
Speaker A:JB King and Ryan Skrilla, they have die laughing comedy.
Speaker A:They run a bunch of great shows.
Speaker A:And I was like, I'm gonna have a beer.
Speaker A:Like, I'm gonna.
Speaker A:Let's be bad.
Speaker A:Yeah, we've been out.
Speaker A:We deserve it.
Speaker A:We just had a great show.
Speaker A:We just made some money.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:So I told jb, I was like, yo, can I get a beer?
Speaker A:And he's like, oh, I got the perfect one.
Speaker A:And it was like, one that was like 10.9%.
Speaker A:And, you know, I.
Speaker A:Despite how much I want to drink, I don't.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I hadn't drank in a minute, dude.
Speaker A:And I could feel it.
Speaker A:When I was on stage doing that set, I said, I'm quitting comedy.
Speaker A:Several times.
Speaker A:I said, I hate this.
Speaker A:Like, my timing was off.
Speaker A:Like, the set was going well, but I was so in my head.
Speaker A:And then I was like, they're laughing, but it's the beer getting the laugh and not me.
Speaker A:It's like.
Speaker A:I mean, I wasn't drinking on stage, but I had.
Speaker A:And I said on stage, I had half a beer, and I'm in the bag.
Speaker A:And then I went back.
Speaker A:It was literally a quarter of the beer.
Speaker A:It wasn't even half of it.
Speaker B:So you had 0.2.
Speaker B:You didn't even have point.
Speaker B:Like, 0.25 of the beer.
Speaker B:That's so hilarious.
Speaker A:I was feeling it, dude.
Speaker A:Like, and, like, my set went well, but I was in my head about it and the timing and just.
Speaker A:I didn't.
Speaker A:I didn't like it.
Speaker A:I thought I was like, I'm just gonna be loosey goosey up there.
Speaker A:And it just didn't.
Speaker A:It didn't feel.
Speaker A:And I feel like it's a cautionary tale for comics that, especially starting out, I'll know a lot of comics will, like, drink before every show, which can get really expensive, especially when you get a dui.
Speaker A:But it could become a crutch.
Speaker A:I've seen it become a crutch for people.
Speaker A:Or smoking as well.
Speaker A:People get high before a show.
Speaker A:It's just, if you want this to be your job, you do need to treat it like a job.
Speaker A:And that was a reminder Saturday of just like, oh, no, this is not my vibe.
Speaker A:But also, I can't.
Speaker B:The other.
Speaker B:But the other thing, though, is also, like, just from your perspective, I want to, like, just give you props.
Speaker B:You weren't getting paid for the second show.
Speaker B:It was just, like, you just.
Speaker A:And that was the vibe of the show.
Speaker A:Like, it was just like, drunk show to brewery.
Speaker A:Like, yeah.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Nothing bad happened.
Speaker A:It just.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I forgot it in my.
Speaker A:I felt it in myself.
Speaker A:I was like, this is not.
Speaker A:This is not in alignment with who I am anymore, for sure.
Speaker B:But also think.
Speaker B:I think it's.
Speaker B:Every once in a while, I think it's okay to, like, just take that chance.
Speaker B:I know that sounds very counterintuitive to everything you just said, but I also think every once in a while, I hadn't Done, you know.
Speaker B:Oh, you've.
Speaker B:You've seen me.
Speaker B:I really don't do crowd work.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:But I'm actually really good at improv and so I tend to stay away from doing crowd work, mainly because I just enjoy having complete control of what's happening with stand up with my material.
Speaker B:I know where these laughs are going to be.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker B:I know where the pops are, I know where the laws are.
Speaker B:So I get very technical.
Speaker B:So I don't do a lot of, like, crowd work.
Speaker B:So when I do get to do crowd work, I feel very, very free and I'm like, oh, we're just having fun.
Speaker B:There's no expectations.
Speaker B:So they threw me up and I did like a quick five minutes and it was just a good time.
Speaker B:And I need to remember to, like, kind of place that into my bigger set as well, of just feeling a bit more free.
Speaker B:And that's a thing that I'm working on in the next couple of.
Speaker B:Just like my next couple of sets is leave some room for some playfulness.
Speaker B:Especially in my set.
Speaker B:It was just a good reminder that.
Speaker B:Of just like, oh, it's interactive.
Speaker B:It's okay to talk to the crowd.
Speaker B:I know how to be in the moment.
Speaker B:I know how to do this.
Speaker B:I just don't do it very often.
Speaker B:And so I think it's fun to at least, like, challenge yourself every once in a while when you get the opportunity.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I mean, I know for sure they wouldn't have thrown me up if they thought it was going to be bad.
Speaker B:And obviously it was not bad.
Speaker B:Like, it was still.
Speaker B:Still a hell of a night.
Speaker B:Great set, still good stuff all around.
Speaker B:But it was just like a reminder, like, oh, yeah, we can do different stuff even if we are married to the set, like I am.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I'll get that question from comics a good bit about, like, if their material feels stale or they're kind of feel like they're in a creative rut or something, because sometimes, like, you'll.
Speaker A:You'll go on a month of like, oh, everything's amazing, and then six months of just, what am I doing?
Speaker A:So it's up and down all the time.
Speaker A:So that could be a fun way to shake it up is just remember to have fun.
Speaker A:Fun.
Speaker A:Remember, this is supposed to be fun.
Speaker A:And I did that before my set.
Speaker A:The first show I did there was.
Speaker A:I set the intention.
Speaker A:I was like, just have fun.
Speaker A:Like we talked about last week, the set I did at your grad show.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That it was just fun and silly and I was like, I want to go in with that intention again.
Speaker A:So before the show, I was like literally saying out loud, I was like, let's just have fun.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker A:Let's just be silly and just have fun.
Speaker A:And the set went really well and I did to like, like similar, like a lot of riffing.
Speaker A:But on, like not ruining the show, like they were riffing that was working.
Speaker A:And then going in the material and kind of just being a little more silly, which is what I mentioned last week.
Speaker A:I want to be more intentional about doing so.
Speaker A:And then I had a quarter of a beer and then ruined all.
Speaker A:I don't know if I told you.
Speaker A:I told one comic after, I was like, I should have just gone out on a high.
Speaker A:She just gone home.
Speaker B:You told me.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, because I gave you the look.
Speaker B:I was like, george, you look sad.
Speaker B:What happened?
Speaker B:I was like, everyone's having a good time.
Speaker B:I walked into the.
Speaker B:I walked into the place.
Speaker B:I got there like super late, but I came to watch a friend of mine.
Speaker A:I think you just missed me.
Speaker A:I think I just gotten off.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, you said you just got off.
Speaker B:And I came to watch a friend, my buddy, Jim Gallagher from California, who's.
Speaker A:Oh yeah, I saw him there.
Speaker B:Yeah, Freaking crush dude.
Speaker B:Absolutely murdered that place.
Speaker B:And then came to watch him.
Speaker B:And then I saw you.
Speaker B:I was like, what happened?
Speaker B:I was like, it looked like something.
Speaker B:Somebody just like stole your puppy or something.
Speaker B:You were not happy about what just went down.
Speaker A:I feel like I let myself down.
Speaker A:I was like, I shouldn't have drank.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:I mean, it was literally all in my head.
Speaker A:It was all self inflicted.
Speaker A:The set went well.
Speaker A:No one was like, yo, like, it was all.
Speaker A:Everything went fine and just for myself.
Speaker A:Yeah, but like you said, every now and then you just.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Gotta remind myself I, I ain't like that.
Speaker B:Yeah, but also, you ain't new to this though.
Speaker A:Facts.
Speaker A:Yeah, facts.
Speaker A:We grew to this.
Speaker B:That's funny.
Speaker B:You're like, I'm not like that anymore.
Speaker B:I can't drink a quarter of a beer.
Speaker A:Well, it was 10.9%, but it was ridicul, ridiculous.
Speaker B:So basically the quarter that you drank was 2%.
Speaker B:That's what you're saying, that 2% really knocked you out?
Speaker B:Is that what you're saying?
Speaker A:I guess so.
Speaker A:Not when you put it like that.
Speaker A:Empty stomach, though.
Speaker A:It was on empty stomach.
Speaker B:And you know, you've been around roses all day.
Speaker B:It was probably just something.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:In the air.
Speaker B:It was the fumes.
Speaker B:It was whatever comes out of roses, all that stuff.
Speaker B:It was, you know, it was all up in the body.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So good.
Speaker A:Yeah, that was fun.
Speaker A:But it was.
Speaker A:It was still.
Speaker A:It was still a lot of fun and a good, great show.
Speaker A:They run great shows there, and they do several good shows around the city, so it was very cool.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I got a Met.
Speaker A:Lisa Remmer messaged me and said she met you, which was funny.
Speaker A:I love when people are, like, from the hot breath averse talk about meeting you, because they're always ex.
Speaker A:They're always, like, excited and, like, say that you're awesome.
Speaker B:Oh, appreciate it, man.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Met her at the Punchline.
Speaker B:I went to go watch some other friends do comedy as well there this weekend, and, yeah, it was a.
Speaker B:It was a fun time.
Speaker B:Yeah, we had an adventure while we were at the Punchline as someone literally passed out while we were all having, like, dinner after the show.
Speaker A:One of the comics.
Speaker A:Yeah, this is for World Series of Comedy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I wanted.
Speaker A:I wanted to make it.
Speaker A:I literally.
Speaker A:I had a few people message me, and I was planning to go Saturday, but after all that, like, being up since 5 and then at that show till, like, 10, it was just like, I can't make it down there.
Speaker B:No, no, it was.
Speaker B:It was fine.
Speaker B:It was fine.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And the person's fine.
Speaker B:And there's nothing.
Speaker A:The person is fine.
Speaker A:Okay, good.
Speaker B:That's fine.
Speaker B:It was just.
Speaker B:It was just an adventure.
Speaker B:Like, you know, you.
Speaker B:When you go out at night and go hang out with friends, you don't expect, like, that stuff to happen or, like, be in the middle of it.
Speaker B:But, yeah, it happened.
Speaker B:And, yeah, it's called the ambulance.
Speaker A:Like, did it get serious?
Speaker B:Yeah, there was an ambulance involved.
Speaker A:My.
Speaker B:Yep, yep.
Speaker A:Whoa.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:They're okay, though.
Speaker B:They're okay.
Speaker B:They are fine.
Speaker A:Holy cow.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:What's in that diner?
Speaker A:Food.
Speaker B:Interesting.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:That usually only happens when you get off stage, but someone calls an ambulance.
Speaker A:But I'm glad you're okay.
Speaker A:I'm glad.
Speaker A:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker B:Well played, sir.
Speaker B:I think it's funny that we roast each other like this, but every time I ask you to do a roast, you're like, nah.
Speaker B:And I think it's because you don't want to go back to your old ways.
Speaker A:It's true.
Speaker A:It's true.
Speaker A:I mean, I used to be.
Speaker A:I roast.
Speaker A:I was.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, I did several contests and stuff like that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm just not about that.
Speaker A:Like, I would do it for money.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But it would have to be work.
Speaker A:Like, because when I do a roast, like, I really prepare.
Speaker A:Like, I mean, I go deep on it.
Speaker A:So I just know how much work it is to do a roast the right way.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it's.
Speaker A:I kind of.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I got out of my system when I did that roast battle with Dulce that they could.
Speaker A:They cut.
Speaker A:They cut us out of the show.
Speaker A:But it was like.
Speaker A:That was kind of like the peak of my roasting, where I was like, oh, I'm gonna be on Comedy Central.
Speaker A:I was like, oh, never mind.
Speaker A:Okay, well, that was cool.
Speaker A:It's fine.
Speaker A:So that was kind of.
Speaker A:After that, I was like, I think I got out of my system.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's funny, because I had.
Speaker A:I had someone literally, like, message me a week or two ago about, he's doing, like, a fundraiser for this disease he has.
Speaker A:He wanted me to come roast him, and I was just like, what?
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker A:Just like, are you insane?
Speaker A:That sounds like the worst setup ever.
Speaker B:I would so do that.
Speaker B:I would so do that.
Speaker B:Yeah, I would definitely do that gig.
Speaker B:I think it's because there's a person in our class who has.
Speaker B:In my comedy class that has cancer.
Speaker B:And one of the classes, I do this thing where everyone gets on stage, and we sort of just have a gentleman's agreement that we're going to roast each other.
Speaker B:So, you know, everything that someone could potentially say about you and use it either in your own comedy or not.
Speaker B:So that's one of the weeks in my class where everybody just gets roasted and you tell people information about you, and then they use it as part of, like, their own set.
Speaker B:And, dude, we went in on this guy, and he loved every single minute of it.
Speaker B:But at the same time, he also used it as part of his, like, material.
Speaker B:So you have to do it in the safe space, honestly.
Speaker B:But, man, we had a very good time.
Speaker B:But he was very into it and was, like, completely okay with it.
Speaker B:Not everybody's okay with it.
Speaker B:I think that's one of those things that you have to request it for yourself.
Speaker B:Like, I think Jeff, the roastmaster, he never lets somebody else say, oh, roast this person.
Speaker B:You have to volunteer to be roasted yourself.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Whoa.
Speaker A:Interesting.
Speaker A:That's a fun exercise.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Because then you, like, it's.
Speaker B:It's fun to see different perspectives, especially comedy perspectives, of just what people think when they first see you on stage.
Speaker B:Like, and just a bunch of you look like.
Speaker B:You know, you sound like your hair gives off these kinds of things.
Speaker B:Like, your face looks like this Like, I feel like, you know, you could have arrested me a month ago.
Speaker B:Like, it's just things of.
Speaker B:Just whatever you can think of and you just go.
Speaker B:And then obviously we record it and then you can use it and add tags to it.
Speaker B:But it's meant to be also just meant to help you with any of your self deprecating humor as well.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Interesting.
Speaker A:That's a fun exercise.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But you got to do it in the safe space, of course.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's all got to be in context.
Speaker A:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Roasting's still huge.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:I know a lot of people still do it a lot.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Personal preference, you know, I mean, Atlanta roast scene is getting bigger now as well, so I've done one.
Speaker B:I'm trying to do some more.
Speaker B:It's a skill.
Speaker A:It's a good writing exercise.
Speaker B:I want to just add it to the bag of, like, the repertoire of things that I can bring out when needed.
Speaker B:I'm really not a roaster.
Speaker B:I really don't roast people a lot.
Speaker B:But if I have time.
Speaker A:The least intimidating laugh ever.
Speaker A:If I have time.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Don't let me look at your LinkedIn, baby, because it's gonna be a wrap.
Speaker B:Let me find.
Speaker B:Your credit score is gonna be over.
Speaker A:Oh, and I had a.
Speaker A:I had a question.
Speaker A:Someone in the this month's contest had asked me a question I wanted to get to.
Speaker A:Oh, and I got to work with Rafi Bastos this weekend too, which was very cool.
Speaker B:How was that?
Speaker A:He.
Speaker B:International superstar, big Instagram follower.
Speaker A:It was incredible.
Speaker A:Yeah, he was.
Speaker A:I mean, it's.
Speaker A:He's like a fan of the podcast he likes.
Speaker B:Awesome.
Speaker A:He messaged me a few years ago and was saying how much he enjoyed the podcast and would love to do it.
Speaker A:And I was like, yeah, whenever you're in Atlanta.
Speaker A:Because I don't.
Speaker A:I don't really want to do them on Zoom anymore.
Speaker A:Like, before the pandemic, I never did one on Zoom.
Speaker A:It was always in person.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So now that we're back at the real world, I'm not doing them on Zoom anymore.
Speaker A:It's just different.
Speaker A:It's not.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, yeah, whenever you're in Atlanta.
Speaker A:So he was in Atlanta, like we did.
Speaker A:We weren't able to make it happen.
Speaker A:The last time he was in Atlanta, I was out of town or something.
Speaker A:But he came back this time and I got to open his show and also do the POD after, which was super dope.
Speaker A:So it was just cool that it's Kind of like when Earthquake is like, I love what y' all are doing.
Speaker A:It's just cool to hear comics of that level just being like, yeah, keep going.
Speaker A:This is good.
Speaker A:So the.
Speaker A:The shows were dope.
Speaker A:The interview was dope.
Speaker A:They cut us off.
Speaker A:Apparently, the lady that working there wanted to go home, so they cut us off at, like, 30 minutes.
Speaker B:So we didn't even really get into it.
Speaker A:Yeah, get into, like, the.
Speaker A:He loves, like, the nerdy side of the show.
Speaker A:So I definitely want to get into that.
Speaker A:But I also wanted to get more context on just.
Speaker A:This guy was like the John Stewart of Brazil and then moved to America and is now, like, blowing up again.
Speaker A:So I was like, this guy knows something about how to become famous, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I was trying to get into that side of stuff first.
Speaker A:And not as much the nerdy.
Speaker A:And then she was.
Speaker A:She didn't say anything.
Speaker A:She just stood over my shoulder, and Gus Horn was there, hot breath there.
Speaker A:So then, like, I felt her presence, but I wasn't looking.
Speaker A:I was just talking with Rafi, and I kind of felt her walk away.
Speaker A:And then I was like.
Speaker A:Looked at Gus, and I was like, is she trying to kick us out?
Speaker A:And he was like, yeah.
Speaker A:Which Rafi was not thrilled about.
Speaker A:He was like, I just made them all this money.
Speaker A:And then, like, he basically.
Speaker A:The show was probably 90% full.
Speaker A:And then Saturday, he did sell out.
Speaker A:So it's kind of like, yo, you'll be here.
Speaker A:It reminds me, I heard a Ralphie May story where he was drinking at a comedy club, and it was getting, like, late, and the manager asked him.
Speaker A:He's like, I gotta go home.
Speaker A:And he was like, I just sold out seven shows.
Speaker A:He's like, I'll stay here all night.
Speaker A:And he ended up staying there, like, all night just to keep the manager there, just because he's like, I just made you, like, yeah, I just made your nut for, like, six months, so I'm gonna stay here as late as I want.
Speaker A:So it was.
Speaker A:Yeah, I think just around 2, but it was good.
Speaker B:That's hilarious.
Speaker B:Literally just had a situation.
Speaker B:I think she was at a spot in Detroit, and after she does, like, meet and greets or something like that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And the person was just like, oh, we don't do meet and greet.
Speaker B:And I think part of it is because that place has to pay people, like, overtime.
Speaker B:But it's like, we just.
Speaker B:To your point, we just made you all this money.
Speaker B:Yeah, go ahead and pay the overtime.
Speaker B:Like, we just took care of you for A very long time.
Speaker B:Like chill out with like the logistics of what you have to do and just pay your people.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You might not enjoy it, but pay them.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker A:This venue also will take a cut of your merch.
Speaker A:Like it's.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I mean it's a beautiful place and they have a lot of nice shows there.
Speaker A:But that is kind of like.
Speaker A:I mean, I had a friend there selling koozies and they're like, you're gonna take 20 of my 140 merch sale of koozies.
Speaker A:I was like, okay, cool.
Speaker A:But whatever.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But yeah, super nice venue and the show was great.
Speaker A:I'm like, I'm like cleaning it up now.
Speaker A:I was like, it was totally fine.
Speaker A:Besides that they kicked us out early.
Speaker B:Work there anytime, you guys.
Speaker A:Yeah, he was super dope and super nice and yeah, just very complimentary of the show.
Speaker A:So that was, that was very cool.
Speaker A:And I'll post that interview on the Patreon so people can see it.
Speaker B:Awesome, dude.
Speaker B:Sweet, man.
Speaker A:But I had a question.
Speaker A:This is anonymous.
Speaker A:This was anonymous.
Speaker A:They want to make sure I kept it anonymous.
Speaker B:I love anonymous.
Speaker A:It was kind of a two parter.
Speaker A:They said on the next podcast, can you, Yoshi, talk about how you feel about comedians trying to gain followers by commenting on other famous comedians posts?
Speaker A:And they said, I also forgot to tell you, Dusty Slay said he takes notes on stage on New material Mondays at Zany's.
Speaker A:I guess because I say don't take notes on stage.
Speaker A:But it's not, it's just, it's not a law.
Speaker A:It's a personal preference for me not to have notes on stage.
Speaker A:And I feel like younger comics, the notes can become a crutch for sure and break some sort of discomfort they have.
Speaker A:And I think younger comics can learn from persevering through resistance.
Speaker A:Like, oh, you forgot your joke on stage.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:What now you have to survive in this moment.
Speaker A:I think that's more valuable than this joke you're not going to be doing in three months.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker A:Learning how to be more present and confident on stage through that discomfort.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:Confidence is the name of the game in comedy.
Speaker A:And stage is where you gain that confidence.
Speaker A:But I see, Yeah, I mean, comics have shot specials with notes like, I'm not saying it's a law, but personally preference.
Speaker A:I don't like notes on stage.
Speaker A:I know you've said the opposite and that's fine.
Speaker A:But I love she.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:Sorry, I don't want to.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:I don't want to say who it Was.
Speaker A:Yeah, but I love.
Speaker A:They threw that in there, by the way, Dusty Slay uses notes.
Speaker A:Check yourself, Joel.
Speaker A:But, yeah, it's new material Monday, so everyone's trying new stuff.
Speaker B:Oh, for sure.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And also more geared at young comics, is what I was saying.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, and I get, like.
Speaker B:Your point is very valid.
Speaker B:Like, it's.
Speaker B:It's good just to, like, challenge yourself when you kind of don't know your material, to figure out what to do in that situation, because that is real life.
Speaker B:You're going to get to a spot where you're performing, and then even though you memorize your entire set and you know what you're going to say, you may just forget or you get a laugh somewhere that you're not expecting it and don't know what to do.
Speaker B:So it's good just to know what to do in that moment, in that situation, which is to your point.
Speaker B:Why not taking notes on stage helps you out, because then you're in the moment versus having the crutch of trying to go back and trying to follow.
Speaker B:Oh, what am I.
Speaker B:Where am I supposed to go next in my set?
Speaker B:Or where.
Speaker B:What am I supposed to do next?
Speaker B:So it's very, very valid.
Speaker B:But, you know, Dusty Slay can do whatever he wants.
Speaker B:That's the other thing I think we have to also remember sometimes.
Speaker B:I think when comedians, I forget who said it, but it was very good advice about how you shouldn't be trying to do what, like, the greats are doing.
Speaker B:You need to do the thing that the person above you is doing.
Speaker B:So if you're an open micr, you need to try to do the stuff that people who are showcasing are doing.
Speaker B:If you're a showcase person, you need to do the things that people who are featuring are doing.
Speaker B:And if you're featuring, you need to do the things that headliners are doing.
Speaker B:And if you're a headliner, you need to do the things that people who are doing stadiums are doing.
Speaker B:Like, that's the level versus trying to do the stuff that Chappelle, you know, Bill Burr, Kevin Hart, like, we are, y' all, we're.
Speaker B:The levels are different, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Gap in the things that they are thinking about and the things that they are walking through.
Speaker B:So Dusty Slay is a bonafide.
Speaker B:He's starting to do like, he's doing.
Speaker A:Theaters, selling out, big theaters now Netflix specials, like on.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, George Wallace, who is one of the most, like, absolutely most prolific writers, takes notes on stage, when he's trying out material, a huge note, it's like a.
Speaker B:It's like a 90s yellow pad that has like.
Speaker B:And when you like when he rip moves the next.
Speaker B:It's a huge movement of like this.
Speaker B:It's a.
Speaker B:It's a long pad.
Speaker B:It's not even a regular eight and a half.
Speaker B:It's like a scroll.
Speaker B:It's a scroll dude of just notes.
Speaker B:And he crushes with that stuff because he's just a prolific writer and he's just like writing and then trying stuff out.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So I think when you get to that stage, you get to break the rules a little bit.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Of course.
Speaker A:I was just thinking newer comics, it could be a crutch more than like.
Speaker B:The initial question was what was the first part of the question?
Speaker A:Okay, yeah, that had nothing to do with her question.
Speaker A:She just.
Speaker A:Or they, he, they.
Speaker A:Oh, just wanted to slide that in there.
Speaker A:Oh, by the way, Dusty Slay uses notes.
Speaker A:But the question was about how do we feel about comedians trying to gain followers by commenting on famous comedians posts.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Get it.
Speaker B:How you live.
Speaker B:Like it doesn't matter.
Speaker B:It doesn't matter.
Speaker B:There's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker B:I mean, I think this is one of those things that it's very obvious that the algorithm is telling us that that's an okay thing to do.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Which is just that response.
Speaker B:But response videos have always been a thing.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:And comedian clips are huge right now.
Speaker B:Comedy is a huge algorithmic success for all of social media.
Speaker B:Comedy clips, crowd work clips.
Speaker B:Probably more comedy clips now than crowd work used to be.
Speaker B:It's not as big right now unless you're like some people like a Matt Rife who still does the crowd clips.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker A:But even they were his.
Speaker A:His guy was saying that they don't hit like they used to.
Speaker A:Like the algorithm isn't prioritizing that as much as it used to back when they were first starting.
Speaker A:He said the view.
Speaker A:I mean they're doing fine, of course.
Speaker A:But yeah, he said the views are down on that style of content now.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:So there's a different style of content, of just funny, relatable content stuff.
Speaker B:And people like reactions at the end of the day.
Speaker B:Like reactions have always been a thing.
Speaker B:I mean if you think about YouTube and the amount of YouTube videos of people reacting to music videos, people reacting to news, people reacting to stuff that people doing just commentary on that stuff, it almost feels like.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:It's almost like a in person podcast where you're Just commenting on things that you find interesting.
Speaker B:There's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker B:I don't have any issues with it.
Speaker B:I think though, the key is if you're doing it for the sake of that's what you think is going to hit from a viral perspective, then that feels like you're not doing it for the right reasons.
Speaker B:If you're doing it because like you're really interested in it, then for sure go ahead and do that.
Speaker B:But if you're like, oh, I want to do this just so I can try to pop on Instagram, then that just feels very inauthentic and you know, then you have to ask yourself, what are you actually doing it for?
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:As long as you're not trolling.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Trying to get off on some sort of controversy or whatnot.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like why are you doing it?
Speaker A:Basically.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's a great question to ask yourself before you even do try something like that.
Speaker A:But that's not even something.
Speaker A:I don't, I guess I don't notice it, but I guess comics are doing that.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:But I don't.
Speaker A:Yeah, I don't have an issue with this.
Speaker B:There's a lot of, lot of clips of rotated Joe Rogan, Theo von Bobby Lee and a couple of just the big podcast of just people reacting to those clips of just responding to it as if though they're just making commentary.
Speaker B:I mean, there's an entire guy on YouTube that just finds controversy in what's happening in the joke ecosystem, I mean the comedy ecosystem, and just talks about the beefs between comics or beefs in scenes, all this other stuff.
Speaker B:It's like that's really what you want to do.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker B:But is that going to.
Speaker B:I mean, I think that's the other thing.
Speaker B:Is someone going to come and see you at a show for that?
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Sure, you can do it online in YouTube, but will someone pay money for that commentary?
Speaker B:And I think that's the difference is like at the end of the day we're still a business where you make the majority of your money by people coming to see you.
Speaker B:Live performances is where your bread really is made.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like Theo Vaughn.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:He's got this huge podcast, but he tours like he sells out stadiums.
Speaker B:Like he's like still doing big time shows.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Andrew Schultz is very popular, but he sells out Madison Square Garden.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:The podcast helps, but he's still doing tons of weekends.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So as long as you're commenting on these posts from.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Place.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Ask yourself why you're doing it basically.
Speaker A:And I guess it could work.
Speaker A:Gaining followers from commenting on a post is an interesting strategy.
Speaker B:Considered thought about it.
Speaker A:But I have nothing.
Speaker A:As long as there's no mal intent.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't, I don't have issues with it.
Speaker A:Clearly this person probably has a strong opinion and maybe is annoyed by this and is like, what do you guys think of this?
Speaker A:Because it's such a specific question.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But yeah, as long as you're not hurting anybody.
Speaker A:I don't, I don't have issues with it.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's funny.
Speaker A:I just love how specific the question is.
Speaker A:I feel like they posted this after seeing a lot of it and being frustrated.
Speaker A:Like, what are we doing here?
Speaker A:Oh, and by the way, dusty slow.
Speaker B:That's one of those things where you like, I.
Speaker B:I do this where I don't like something online.
Speaker B:So I just keep watching that thing that I don't enjoy.
Speaker B:And then the algorithm thinks I really enjoy this because I keep watching.
Speaker B:And then you're like, I hate this.
Speaker B:And then you're angry and you're like, why are people doing this?
Speaker B:And so, yeah, I think they got to that point where they're just hate watching pretty much.
Speaker A:Joe.
Speaker A:Joe Mackey had this hilarious joke when I worked with him.
Speaker A:I don't want like give away the whole bit, but it was basically like, he's friends with Mato Lane.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Who's like a very well known comedian who's gay.
Speaker A:And he like posts pictures and Speedos a lot and stuff.
Speaker A:So he had this joke about how the algorithm, he liked a photo of mate Mateo as a friend, but he's like, but the algorithm thought that's what I like now.
Speaker A:So he was served up all this different.
Speaker A:It's a whole bit I don't want to like give away, but it was just so funny.
Speaker A:That reminded me of that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But that's true though.
Speaker B:Like, even if you're like, oh yeah, I support this.
Speaker B:And then the algorithm's like, oh, you like a lot of this?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Oh my God.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker B:I'm currently going through.
Speaker B:I'm trying to replace it.
Speaker B:I've been watching like just nature videos of lions, like in the wild, like hunting animals.
Speaker A:Oh my God.
Speaker B:Literally thinks that that's what like I enjoy.
Speaker B:Like, I liked one video.
Speaker B:One video.
Speaker B:And then all of a sudden it just became a thing now.
Speaker A:I was like, why don't you do that with my comedy clips, y' all Serve that up to other people, please.
Speaker A:What are we doing here?
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm hunting these jokes, somebody.
Speaker A:All right, well, let's.
Speaker A:Let's land the plane.
Speaker A:I've got.
Speaker A:I've got family coming over.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:The baby.
Speaker A:But I'm glad we snuck that.
Speaker A:We got up early for this, y' all.
Speaker A:We want to make sure we still got it in.
Speaker B:I just dropped off the kids and came straight.
Speaker B:Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker A:So we appreciate all support.
Speaker A:Thanks for asking questions.
Speaker A:And it's always great to see all out in the shows and stuff, so feel free to keep hitting us up, join our Facebook group.
Speaker A:There's a lot of other good discussions going on in there.
Speaker A:Hot breath.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Those of you watching on Patreon Yoshi is wearing the OG Hot breath shirt with the original tagline caffeinate your ears, which means nothing.
Speaker B:Start.
Speaker B:This was the start, baby.
Speaker A:Purple and white was the color scheme.
Speaker A:Caffeinate your ears literally says nothing about the show, but it says everything at the same time.
Speaker A:But, yeah, if you guys want to book us for stuff, we're both available for booking on shows and stuff as well, so hit us up on social media.
Speaker B:Yeah, we do clean, we do dirty.
Speaker B:We do it all.
Speaker B:Maybe Joel won't do dirty.
Speaker B:He might have to.
Speaker B:He might have to have, like, a.
Speaker A:Beer in my system.
Speaker B:We'll see a little alky in the system.
Speaker B:Dirty stuff.
Speaker A:So, yeah, we are available for bookings.
Speaker A:Feel free to hit us up about that, and we'll see you all next week.
Speaker B:Bye.
Speaker B:Bye.
